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210925
Help with a sentence!
I am suppose to use ~たばかり and translate this sentence to japanese
(You bought a new bike last week, but it was stolen yesterday. )
Was wondering which of these is more correct:

先週、新しい自転車を買ったばかりですが、昨日は盗まれました。
昨日、先週の買ったばかりの自転車は盗まれました。
先週の買ったばかりの自転車は昨日、盗まれました。

The last two sentences are missing *atarashii, but don't know where to put it or which particle to use. Could use some help, thanks :)

In addition, I could use someone to practice Japanese grammar with..

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Viktorija
Jakus

October 16, 2014

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210977
Re:Help with a sentence!
Hi. Ughhh... I'm afraid to say, every one of all of yours is not correct.

"The original English sentence" is,

You bought a new bike last week, but it was stolen yesterday.

So, your translations below were made without inserting "You" in Japanese.

As a native Japanese speaker, I would say,

先週新しい自転車を買ったそうですが,昨日盗まれてしまったようですね。

Your 3 translations unfortunately are, like, something that speaks about the incident which happened to you.

Now, you might wonder and may point out my expression also does not have
Japanese word "貴女=あなた", which is You.

However, I am "controlling" the "direction" by using the last particle.

"ね" is a particle that suggests "the conclusion or the confirmation".
This particle is not used "toward yourself". Only on the contrary "toward other people or person".

Please be noticed this slight different will have a great impact on your
translation, since only with omitting a particle that suggests you are
talking about not yourself.

I wish this might have helped you.


Language pair: Japanese; English
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KENTARO
TOMONO

October 19, 2014

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211043
Re:Help with a sentence!
The 1st sentence is more correct, if the oringinal sentece is below.
'I bought a new bike last week, but it was stolen yesterday.'

I guess it is not so important for you either 'I' or 'You', so I will let you know how to use '~ばかり' and more correct expression in Japanese on the case 'I'.

At first, all sentence in Japanese is no problem with the way to use '~ばかり '.
All Japanese may say 'correct'.
The reason why I said '1st is more correct' is that 2 sentence are translated to 2 sentence.
I mean the below will be original sentence of the 2nd and 3rd sentence in English.
'The new bike that I bought last week was stolen yesterday.
But I think it the defference is not so important.


Second, the sentence has a room to improve a bit on the way to use 'て に を は'.

The 1st sentence will be perfect, if 'は' is removed like below.
先週、新しい自転車を買ったばかりですが、昨日、盗まれました。

The 2nd sentence will be good, if 'は' is replaced to 'を'.
昨日、先週の買ったばかりの自転車を盗まれました。
It will be perfect if the position of '昨日' is replaced.
先週の買ったばかりの自転車を昨日盗まれました。
The replacement of the '昨日' position make the sentence more clearly.People can understand that the bike was stolen 'yesterday' (not last week).

The 3rd sentence will be perfect, if 'は' is replaced to 'を'.
先週の買ったばかりの自転車を昨日、盗まれました。

In Japanese, 'は' add the feeleng 'LIMITED'.

'昨日は盗まれた' make listener have question '昨日以外は盗まれなかった?'
Of course, it's non sense. So Japanese people may understand what you say.

'先週買ったばかりの自転車は盗まれた' make listener to have question '先週買った自転車以外の自転車、例えば以前から持っていた古い自転車は盗まれなかった?'
In some case, it may make sense. So Japanese people will try to understand with the context of the front and rear.

If my explaination is not clear because of my poor English, don't mind ask me more question.



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Shinichi
Kawamura

October 22, 2014

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211061
Re:Re:Help with a sentence!
Sorry, I found a little mistake in my explanation.

In the 2nd and 3rd sentence in Japanese, '先週の買ったばかり' will be perfect if 'の' is removed.

'先週買ったばかりの自転車を昨日盗まれました。' is perfect.

Thanks,

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Shinichi
Kawamura

October 22, 2014

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